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    <title>question Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified) in Common Service Data Model forum</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Robert&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is a very good question, and have been around this myself a number of times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) The "Hosting Service" is a Technical Service for your Application Service, that means it is not the "Hosting Service" - you make changes to, but the Application Service&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So you will never raise a ticket on the Technical Service, unless, it is the CI Components - that supports the Technical Service, that you want to change.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think maybe you want the "Hosting Service" - to execute the change, that group should be referenced from the "IT Change Management - service offering - or application service record" - support group.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;best regards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stig&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:12:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Stig Brandt</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-06-11T08:12:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344861#M3259</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;or, What did I do wrong?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="find_real_file.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.servicenow.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/8731i2D87D7EB0697A78C/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="find_real_file.png" alt="find_real_file.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is an over-simplified example of my ServiceNow instance using the CSDM. For context, I don't buy my ServiceNow offering from ServiceNow, rather it's through a third-party provider. The third-party provider's offering is represented here as the "ServiceNow Host Offering".&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I log a change request, for example against the Application Service and Refresh Impacted Services, the IT Change Management offering is listed correctly. If however, I were to log the change against the ServiceNow Host Offering and Refresh Impacted Services, the business service offering isn't listed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Where have I gone wrong in my thinking? I've been looking at models for a few days and it's all gone a bit fuzzy. I suspect I'm missing something very obvious but I just can't see it. Any advice is greatly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 07:55:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Robert80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T07:55:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344862#M3260</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Robert&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This is a very good question, and have been around this myself a number of times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1) The "Hosting Service" is a Technical Service for your Application Service, that means it is not the "Hosting Service" - you make changes to, but the Application Service&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So you will never raise a ticket on the Technical Service, unless, it is the CI Components - that supports the Technical Service, that you want to change.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I think maybe you want the "Hosting Service" - to execute the change, that group should be referenced from the "IT Change Management - service offering - or application service record" - support group.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;best regards&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Stig&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 08:12:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344862#M3260</guid>
      <dc:creator>Stig Brandt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T08:12:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344863#M3261</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's correct.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The Business Service Offering either the Technical Service Offering are the entry points in a way that:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;the change is initiated from Business Side (business service offering)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;the change is initiated from the Support Side (technical service offering)&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The impacted services is looking upstream from the related Impacted CIs. for the registered technical service offering there is just 1 upstream relation, which is Foundation Platform. You need indeed the application service level (or any infrastructure level below) to see upstream relations to Business Service (offerings).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 09:02:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Barry Kant</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T09:02:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344864#M3262</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Agree, from my understanding the Technical Service records the Support Group for the Application Service - which is where you would raise the change. Indeed the Technical Service Offering controlling the Support details for all Application services or CI components is one of the big benefits I like.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Would you really be raising a change at the offering level ever (unless changing the Offering details itself)?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 09:24:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alec Hanson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T09:24:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344865#M3263</link>
      <description>Thank you for your replies, I really appreciate the detail. 

Alec, I think logging a change against the offering if you were changing the commitments, for example, is an  interesting use case actually. 

I was thinking about a scenario where the hosting service is unavailable and wanting to identify what that means to the business. I wonder how using an outage record would work.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 09:42:23 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Robert80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T09:42:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344866#M3264</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Yes that is interesting how that could work, with the offering representing the Platform. Would be interesting to see if an outage would help at all.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:18:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Alec Hanson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T10:18:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344867#M3265</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If Hosting Services is unavailable, and hosting service contains:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SNProd01&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SNPreProd1&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SNUAT01&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;LI&gt;SNDEV01&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P&gt;would you register that Hosting Services is unavailable, or would you register that one or some of the application services is unavailable?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For outages:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;you would need to create an outage for all impacted services that are degredated or unavailable, so consumers can be informed via the portal.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So the questions is:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;who will consume outage information?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;if only done on technical service level, enterprise business consumers will not be informed.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:06:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Barry Kant</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T11:06:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
      <link>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344868#M3266</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If your application service is depending on your hosting service (maybe you know the infrastructure components, below example you just refer to a service, it could be network service etc.), I see it like this, but not sure ServiceNow CSDM have this scenario in their book&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper" image-alt="find_real_file.png"&gt;&lt;img src="https://www.servicenow.com/community/image/serverpage/image-id/8732iC7E3416D7352C0C3/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="find_real_file.png" alt="find_real_file.png" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:56:33 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Stig Brandt</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-06-11T12:56:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Real-life CSDM example using ServiceNow (simplified)</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is a youtube video where Mark Bodman shows examples of how to map the ServiceNow platform according to CSDM:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;SPAN lang="SV"&gt;&lt;A title="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wD-E5IBzys&amp;amp;list=PLkGSnjw5y2U7QNr9jL6TAgwQvYBI_LEtK&amp;amp;index=30" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wD-E5IBzys&amp;amp;list=PLkGSnjw5y2U7QNr9jL6TAgwQvYBI_LEtK&amp;amp;index=30"&gt;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wD-E5IBzys&amp;amp;list=PLkGSnjw5y2U7QNr9jL6TAgwQvYBI_LEtK&amp;amp;index=30&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2021 08:44:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://www.servicenow.com/community/common-service-data-model-forum/real-life-csdm-example-using-servicenow-simplified/m-p/344869#M3267</guid>
      <dc:creator>Chatarina Lyth</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-08-18T08:44:21Z</dc:date>
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