Migration from J2SSH to SNCSSH
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02-24-2015 03:17 PM
Eureka adds a new SSH library, SNCSSH or "ServiceNow SSH," which is gradually replacing the older J2SSH library or "Legacy SSH."
J2SSH limitations:
- no longer being supported by the open source community
- the set of negotiable algorithms is steadily aging, for example there is no support for diffie-hellman-group14-sha1 and aes256-ctr
- large number of threads per connection strains server resources
- limited number of simultaneous probes per IP, by default three
- maintainability of the J2SSH code is less than optimal
- poor resource locking causes stalls during connection
- scripts are scp'ed to the target system in a tmp directory, which can fail when no temp space is available
New features of SNCSSH:
- nio-based architecture greatly reduces the number of threads
- improved error messages
- "deferred" debug logging, collects full debug information for each connection, displaying it only when that connection encounters an error
- number of simultaneous probes limited only by server's MaxSessions, by default seven
- where possible, scripts are handled as bourne-shell functions, reducing the number of operations required and removing the requirement to execute scripts from the temp directory
Terminal vs channels
Under the hood, sncssh uses ssh connections in a different way from j2ssh, which may result in some subtle differences in behavior.
A "terminal" is like the ssh connection you're probably used, a persistent connection where you type one character at a time, and watch for a command prompt to know it's your turn to type.
A "channel" is an internal feature of SSH sessions that allows multiple operations to be conducted over the same session, including execution of commands. This often goes by the term, "multiplexing" in ssh implementations.
j2ssh
- creates a pool of terminals, with one terminal used per probe
- each terminal has its own session to the server in question, so it's a heavy object
- commands are executed by sending a sequence of characters through the input stream of the terminal, and results are gleaned from the output stream.
- state from one probe may remain in the terminal when a subsequent probe is run. (This is why you cannot end a probe with "exit." It closes the terminal.)
sncssh
- creates a new channel for each operation run
- all the channels for the same host share a session, so it they are light objects
- commands to be executed are handled as discrete requests to the channel, one command per channel
- the lifetime of the channel is a single command, with no state carried over from previous commands
Selection of sncssh vs j2ssh
SNCSSH is enabled by default for new customers in Eureka and Fuji. Existing customers retain the same j2ssh.
You may select which library you prefer for the whole instance, for individual mid servers, and probe by probe.
Boolean attributes enabling sncssh, in order of descending precedence:
Probe - use_snc_ssh
Mid Server - (Discovery | Orchestration) / Mid Servers / (Your individual mid server) / Configuration Parameters / mid.ssh.use_snc
Instance - Mid Server / Properties / mid.property.ssh.use_snc
Detection of sncssh
When sncssh is in use, the probe parameter use_snc_ssh will be set to true in the ecc_queue record.

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07-15-2015 07:09 PM
SNCSSH might be forced 'off' in your instance. Check the MID Server configs by navigating to Orchestration > Mid Server.
Select the MID server you want
Look at the "Configuration Parameters" tab
If there is a line that says "mid.ssh.use_snc" and it's set to 'false', simply remove this or set it to true. It will then start using the new ssh client.
If you want to use j2ssh, keep it 'false.'

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07-16-2015 06:26 AM
Have you tried reinstalling the MID since the instance was backed out? Why not download fresh installer from the instance and test?
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10-25-2018 09:28 PM
I came across the code referenced in the link below using J2SSH library to sftp a file from SN to an SFTP server. Anyone aware of any similar option/library using SNCSSH for file transfer via SSH to an SFTP server ?
https://gist.github.com/paulsena/10120453
It uses 'Packages.com.sshtools.j2ssh.SshClient()'.
Thanks,
Hari
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10-26-2018 08:27 AM
That would be a completely different set of completely undocumented calls.
There exists an API on the ecc_queue to move files between arbitrary combinations of {scp, sftp, ftp, mid file, instance attachment} endpoints, but it is undocumented and there is no corresponding javascript API exists at this time to drive it.
If you send an export set to the mid server and look at the ecc_queue, you can see what it looks like.